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#991399 - Tue Aug 12 2008 09:54 AM Tropic Thunder Offensive to Retards
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080812/ap_on_en_mo/film_tropic_thunder_protest
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"Tropic Thunder" is pushing the envelope too far for groups representing the mentally disabled.

Dozens of people from organizations such as the Special Olympics and the American Association of People with Disabilities protested the movie-industry spoof across the street from the film's Los Angeles premiere at Mann's Bruin Theatre on Monday. The protesters held up signs with slogans such as "Call me by my name, not by my label" and chanted phrases like "Ban the movie, ban the word."

The groups are outraged over scenes featuring the liberal usage of a disparaging term used to describe the mentally disabled. In the movie, director and co-star Ben Stiller plays a fame-hungry actor cast in a war movie who previously had a role as a mentally disabled character named Simple Jack. The DreamWorks film, which opens Wednesday, also stars Robert Downey Jr. and Jack Black.

"When I heard about it, I felt really hurt inside," said Special Olympics global messenger Dustin Plunkett. "I cannot believe a writer could write something like that. It's the not the way that we want to be portrayed. We have feelings. We don't like the word retard. We are people. We're just like any other people out there. We want to be ourselves and not be discriminated against."

Andrew J. Imparato, president of the American Association of People with Disabilities, said he and other representatives from advocacy groups representing the mentally disabled met with DreamWorks co-chair Stacey Snider and watched a private screening of the film Monday morning. Imparato called the movie "tasteless" and said it was "offensive start to finish."

"I have a sense of humor," said Imparato. "There were parts of the movie where I laughed, but it seems to me that the movie tried really hard to go too far and then pull back on everything that was offensive except the issue of people with intellectual disabilities. I just think Ben Stiller and the people involved in this movie just didn't think it was going to be offensive."

Following the original complaints from the advocacy groups, DreamWorks pulled some promotional materials, including a Web site that promoted the film-within-a-film starring Stiller's character which contained the tag line "Once there was a retard." DreamWorks spokesman Chip Sullivan previously said in a statement that "no changes or cuts to the film will be made."

"If you want to pick on people, as the old playground saying goes, pick on people your own size," said Timothy Shriver, chairman of the Special Olympics, who is calling for a boycott of "Tropic Thunder" along with the other groups. "This population struggles too much with the basics to have to struggle against Hollywood. We're sending a message that this hate speech is no longer acceptable."

whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."

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#991400 - Tue Aug 12 2008 09:54 AM Re: Tropic Thunder Offensive to Retards [Re: thedoctor]
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whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."

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#991402 - Tue Aug 12 2008 09:58 AM Re: Tropic Thunder Offensive to Retards [Re: thedoctor]
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I gotts say....I can't wait to see this movie. I think they hit a home run with it. Downey looks and sounds hilarious using the Bill Cosby voice.
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#991404 - Tue Aug 12 2008 10:07 AM Re: Tropic Thunder Offensive to Retards [Re: PJP]
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 Originally Posted By: The New Adventures of Old PJP
I gotts say....I can't wait to see this movie. I think they hit a home run with it. Downey looks and sounds hilarious using the Bill Cosby voice.



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#991410 - Tue Aug 12 2008 10:20 AM Re: Tropic Thunder Offensive to Retards [Re: the G-man of Zur-En-Arrh]
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These are probably the same people who complained about The Ringer, saying it was taking the piss out of disabled people and the special olymics, until they found out that the film makers worked with the special olymics people, and that half the cast were disabled!

Maybe we should all boycott any films that have able bodied people being insulted!


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#991415 - Tue Aug 12 2008 11:02 AM Re: Tropic Thunder Offensive to Retards [Re: Nowhereman]
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The retard in the article misapplied "discrimination." Discrimination would have been if they were not allowed to watch the movie just because they were retards, but using the term "retard" is merely insulting and not discrimination.



Nevermind, I've been informed of a very liberal version of the word, discrimination, which basicly faults anybody for being able to compare and contrast indivisuals against baseline society.

So apparently, if I recognize that a retard is retarded and then mentally distinguish that this indivisual performs below social norms in a mental fashion, I'm discriminating.

I never knew I was such a bigot.


Edited by The Dread Pirate Westley (Tue Aug 12 2008 11:14 AM)
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#991417 - Tue Aug 12 2008 11:13 AM Re: Tropic Thunder Offensive to Retards [Re: The Dread Pirate Westley]
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How could he misapply it when he didn't apply it to begin with? All the article says is that groups like the Special Olympics were protesting it because they felt it was offensive.

whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."

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#991418 - Tue Aug 12 2008 11:14 AM Re: Tropic Thunder Offensive to Retards [Re: The Dread Pirate Westley]
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I think if the movie advocated calling retarded people retards it might be offensive, but from what I understand they are calling non-retarded people retards which is a common practice totally unrelated to whether a person is retarded or not.

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#991419 - Tue Aug 12 2008 11:14 AM Re: Tropic Thunder Offensive to Retards [Re: thedoctor]
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Whats better than winning a gold medal in the special Olympics?







Not being retarded.

The above post may contain heavy sarcasm. If you have no sense of humor please do not over-react and throw a hissy fit.

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#991421 - Tue Aug 12 2008 11:17 AM Re: Tropic Thunder Offensive to Retards [Re: rex]
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