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#1096032 - Sun Dec 06 2009 06:53 PM Tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks
Lothar of The Hill People
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Tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks
Dec 6, 2009 (8:01a CST)
By JESSE WASHINGTON

AP National Writer
Amid all the headlines generated by Tiger Woods' troubles - the puzzling car accident, the suggestions of marital turmoil and multiple mistresses - little attention has been given to the race of the women linked with the world's greatest golfer. Except in the black community.

When three white women were said to be romantically involved with Woods in addition to his blonde, Swedish wife, blogs, airwaves and barbershops started humming, and Woods' already tenuous standing among many blacks took a beating.

On the nationally syndicated Tom Joyner radio show, Woods was the butt of jokes all week.

"Thankfully, Tiger, you didn't marry a black woman. Because if a sister caught you running around with a bunch of white hoochie-mamas," one parody suggests in song, she would have castrated him.

"The Grinch's Theme Song" didn't stop there: "The question everyone in America wants to ask you is, how many white women does one brother waaant?"

As one blogger, Robert Paul Reyes, wrote: "If Tiger Woods had cheated on his gorgeous white wife with black women, the golfing great's accident would have been barely a blip in the blogosphere."

The darts reflect blacks' resistance to interracial romance. They also are a reflection of discomfort with a man who has smashed barriers in one of America's whitest sports and assumed the mantle of the world's most famous athlete, once worn by Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan.

But Woods has declined to identify himself as black, and famously chose the term "Cablinasian" (Caucasian, black, Indian and Asian) to describe the racial mixture he inherited from his African-American father and Thai mother.

This vexed some blacks, but it hasn't stopped them from claiming Woods as one of their own. Or from disapproving of his marriage to Elin Nordegren, despite blacks' historical fight against white racist opponents of mixed marriage.

On the one hand, Ebonie Johnson Cooper doesn't care that Tiger Woods' wife and alleged mistresses are white because Woods is "quote-unquote not really black."

"But at the same time we still see him as a black man with a white woman, and it makes a difference," said Johnson Cooper, a 26-year-old African-American from New York City. "There's just this preservation thing we have among one another. We like to see each other with each other."

Black women have long felt slighted by the tendency of famous black men to pair with white women, and many have a list of current transgressors at the ready.

"We've discussed this for years among black women," said Denene Millner, author of several books on black relationships. "Why is it when they get to this level ... they tend to go directly for the nearest blonde?"

This tendency may be more prominent due to a relative lack of interracial marriages among average blacks. Although a recent Pew poll showed that 94 percent of blacks say it's all right for blacks and whites to date, a study published this year in Sociological Quarterly showed that blacks are less likely to actually date outside their race than are other groups.

"There is a call for loyalty that is stronger in some ways than in other racial communities," said the author of the study, George Yancey, a sociology professor at the University of North Texas and author of the book "Just Don't Marry One."

The color of one's companion has long been a major measure of "blackness" - which is a big reason why the biracial Barack Obama was able to fend off early questions about his black authenticity.

"Had Barack had a white wife, I would have thought twice about voting for him," Johnson Cooper said.

So do Woods' women say something about the intensely private golfer's views on race?

"I would like to say no, but I think it garners a bit of a yes," Johnson Cooper said.

Carmen Van Kerckhove, founder of the race-meets-pop-culture blog Racialicious, said there have been frequent discussions on her site about the fine line between preference and fetish.

"Is there any difference between a white guy with a thing for blondes, and a non-white guy with a thing for blondes?" asked Van Kerckhove, who has a Chinese mother, a Belgian father and a husband born in America to parents from Benin.

She claims that Asians don't fully embrace Woods, either.

"There are two layers of suspicion toward him," Van Kerkhove said. "One toward the apparent pattern in the race of his partners, and the second in the way he sees himself. ... People have been giving him the side-eye for a while."

There's nothing wrong with wanting a mate who shares your culture, as long as it's for the right reasons, the comedienne Sheryl Underwood said after unleashing a withering Woods monologue on Tom Joyner's radio show.

"Would we question when a Jewish person wants to marry other Jewish people?" she said in an interview. "It's not racist. It's not bigotry. It's cultural pride."

"The issue comes in when you choose something white because you think it's better," Underwood said. "And then you never date a black woman or a woman of color or you never sample the greatness of the international buffet of human beings. If you never do that, we got a problem."

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Jesse Washington covers race and ethnicity for The Associated Press.

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God don't make no mistakes. That's how He got to be God. - Archie Bunker

Why attack God? He may be as miserable as we are.

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#1096034 - Sun Dec 06 2009 07:05 PM Re: Tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks [Re: Lothar of The Hill People]
Captain Sammitch
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glad to see that one's character can so easily be measured by their levels of melanin.

doesn't him cheating on his wife with a white woman make him pretty black anyway?

read bright-RACK misterjla-Я4.9billion...


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#1096110 - Mon Dec 07 2009 03:59 AM Re: Tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks [Re: Captain Sammitch]
Pariah
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As a pseudo-black individual, I'd like to hear what TK has to say on the matter.

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1096137 - Mon Dec 07 2009 10:20 AM Re: Tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks [Re: Pariah]
Prometheus
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There's nothing wrong with wanting a mate who shares your culture, as long as it's for the right reasons, the comedienne Sheryl Underwood said after unleashing a withering Woods monologue on Tom Joyner's radio show.

"Would we question when a Jewish person wants to marry other Jewish people?" she said in an interview. "It's not racist. It's not bigotry. It's cultural pride."

"The issue comes in when you choose something white because you think it's better," Underwood said. "And then you never date a black woman or a woman of color or you never sample the greatness of the international buffet of human beings. If you never do that, we got a problem."


.......wait. What? That makes no fucking sense. Wouldn't you always choose something you think is "better"? White or black, you're not going to choose what you think is "subpar".

So, every redneck that is against interracial unions is just concerned with "cultural pride"?

What asinine excuses...



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#1096144 - Mon Dec 07 2009 11:58 AM Re: Tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks [Re: Prometheus]
Pariah
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I think this stems from that episode of Oprah where they had the black twelve year old pick between a black doll and a white doll.

She picked the white doll, saying it was a "good color."

I call bullshit; either Oprah or the guest doctor staged it or something.

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1096160 - Mon Dec 07 2009 01:47 PM Re: Tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks [Re: Pariah]
Prometheus
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They're using a twelve-year-old's doll preference as a standard to measure racism. How can anyone take that seriously...



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#1096184 - Mon Dec 07 2009 05:01 PM Re: Tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks [Re: Prometheus]
rex
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Because he's a twelve year old.

November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.

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#1096201 - Mon Dec 07 2009 07:02 PM Re: Tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks [Re: rex]
MisterJLA
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I'll be 12 years old in 7 years.

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"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?"


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#1096415 - Tue Dec 08 2009 11:18 AM Re: Tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks [Re: Lothar of The Hill People]
the G-man
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Jesse Washington covers race and ethnicity for The Associated Press.


Translation: Jesse Washington is nerdy, middle aged, black dude who couldn't get a hot white model or stripper to even look at him.

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#1096439 - Tue Dec 08 2009 02:45 PM Re: Tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks [Re: the G-man]
Grimm
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they also want to judge him "as a black man" and then turn around and say "he's not really black." you can't have it both ways, kids.
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