#1067422
- Wed Jun 24 2009 04:13 PM
Oscar Makes Room for More Films
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thedoctor
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http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.ap.org/oscars-doubling-bestpicture-nominees-10-ap The best-picture lineup at the Academy Awards is doubling from five films to 10, a move organizers said Wednesday will open the field to more worthy movies and possibly boost the ceremony's TV ratings.
The change, which was approved Tuesday night by the board of governors for the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, takes effect at next year's Oscars on March 7.
The plan is a return to Oscar traditions of the 1930s and '40s, when a best-picture field of 10 or more films was common.
Academy President Sid Ganis said the board looked at last year's slate of films and decided there was room for more in the top category. "We nominated five, but there were many other great films last year," Ganis said.
Among last year's most acclaimed movies was the Batman blockbuster "The Dark Knight," which wound up snubbed. Another was "WALL-E," which won the Oscar for feature-length animation but was not among best-picture nominees.
Ganis said the broader field might make room for documentaries, foreign-language films, animated movies and even comedies, which typically do not fare well for best-picture nominations.
"Everybody says the academy will never nominate a comedy," Ganis said. "Well, maybe we will."
The Oscars have separate categories for animated, foreign-language and documentary films. A best-picture nomination would not preclude films from competing in those categories, as well.
With extra movies competing for the top honor, the Oscar show might draw a bigger TV audience as more fans tune to see how their favorite films fare, Ganis said.
The ratings for last February's Oscars were up solidly, but that followed a ceremony a year earlier that drew the lowest ratings ever. Along with other awards shows, the Oscars generally have been losing viewers over the past couple of decades.
Having 10 or more was common in Hollywood's golden age some 70 years ago. Ganis noted that 1939's 10 best-picture nominees were "Gone with the Wind," which won, "The Wizard of Oz," "Stagecoach," "Wuthering Heights," "Love Affair," "Goodbye, Mr. Chips," "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington," "Of Mice and Men," "Dark Victory" and "Ninotchka."
All are generally considered classics today.
The last time there were 10 nominees was the Oscar ceremony for 1943, when "Casablanca" won best picture. There have been only five nominees each year since then.
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#1067425
- Wed Jun 24 2009 04:44 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
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thedoctor
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This could be a good thing. As they said, it could finally allow for comedies to be allowed more room for running for Best Picture if there is less of a sense that every nomination has to be a some pretentious drama about a blind pianist helping his wife survive breast cancer.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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#1067428
- Wed Jun 24 2009 04:56 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
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thedoctor
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Back in the day, comedies and blockbusters used to be in the running for Best Picture. Like I said, the people in the industry got a little too high and mighty on themselves along the way. Odd since they are the ones making those same movies they snub.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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#1067429
- Wed Jun 24 2009 04:57 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
[Re: thedoctor]
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King Snarf
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This could be a good thing. As they said, it could finally allow for comedies to be allowed more room for running for Best Picture if there is less of a sense that every nomination has to be a some pretentious drama about a blind pianist helping his wife survive breast cancer.
You forgot to add "during the Holocaust".
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#1067432
- Wed Jun 24 2009 05:02 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
[Re: King Snarf]
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thedoctor
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Stop making fun of the Jews, Snarf. Will your antisemitism ever end?
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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#1067434
- Wed Jun 24 2009 05:04 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
[Re: thedoctor]
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Joe Mama
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Stop making fun of the Jews, Snarf. Will your antisemitism ever end?
Oakley thinks Snarf's Nazism goes to far...
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#1067437
- Wed Jun 24 2009 05:11 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
[Re: Joe Mama]
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thedoctor
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Now I know why Snarf and Wonder Boy teamed up. Their hatred of Jews and love of cock was too much to keep them apart.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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#1067455
- Wed Jun 24 2009 05:50 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
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K-nutreturns
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youre both right...
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#1067458
- Wed Jun 24 2009 05:52 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
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Nöwheremän
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Who is this Oscar? Is he a grouch?
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#1067459
- Wed Jun 24 2009 05:53 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
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Nöwheremän
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This could be a good thing. As they said, it could finally allow for comedies to be allowed more room for running for Best Picture if there is less of a sense that every nomination has to be a some pretentious drama about a blind pianist helping his wife survive breast cancer. You forgot to add "during the Holocaust". You forgot to be interesting.
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#1067462
- Wed Jun 24 2009 05:55 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
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Nöwheremän
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Like they have ever given Oscars to the best films and actors etc.
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#1067645
- Thu Jun 25 2009 04:57 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
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Nöwheremän
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I am sure Downey is still alive.
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#1067665
- Thu Jun 25 2009 05:16 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
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Irwin Schwab
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not according to Variety Magazine.
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#1067666
- Thu Jun 25 2009 05:17 PM
Re: Oscar Makes Room for More Films
[Re: Irwin Schwab]
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Nöwheremän
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But thats because they are gay!
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#1109926
- Sat Mar 06 2010 09:25 PM
Oscar's New Math
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the G-man
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Oscar's 'new math': How best picture will be picked
- Oscar oddsmakers have "The Hurt Locker" and "Avatar" in a virtual dead heat for best picture. So it's a sure bet that one of them will win on Sunday, right?
Not necessarily.
Voting for best picture – and tabulating those votes – isn't a simple case of majority rule. For one thing, with 10 nominees this year, it's more likely than ever that no film will receive 50 percent-plus-one of the vote: If "Avatar" and "Hurt Locker" are as close as believed, even if the other eight nominees combined drew, say, just 15 percent of the votes, that likely would be enough to keep either of the favorites from reaching 50 percent.
In the past, that wouldn't have mattered: the top vote-getter would take the trophy, end of story.
But this year, the Academy changed the script. When it expanded the best picture category from five nominees to 10, it also changed the voting system from a plurality (most votes wins) to something that sounds like a communicable disease – STV. It actually stands for the Single Transferable Vote system, and it's also known as Instant Runoff, Preferential Voting or Alternative Voting.
Basically, instead of just selecting a favorite, each voter ranks all 10 nominees. The ballots are separated into 10 groups: those with "Avatar" No. 1 in one group, those with "Hurt Locker" as the top pick in another, and so forth. Then, if no film has a majority of No. 1 votes, the system goes to work.
Let's say, for argument's sake, that "A Serious Man" receives the fewest No. 1 votes. (Sorry, Joel and Ethan.) That film would be knocked out, and the ballots in that pile would be redistributed among the remaining nominees, based on those ballots' second choices. If that doesn't produce a film with a majority, the process is repeated with the No. 9 movie, and so forth.
Some people see this system as favoring "Hurt Locker." They reason is that even people who didn't love the war drama respect it as a well-made film, while people who disliked "Avatar" really hated it, because they disagree with one of its perceived messages, or they just don't think a special-effects-heavy film should win best picture. So while many people who don't rate "Hurt Locker" first might put it second or third, voters who don't pick "Avatar" to win might rank it at or near the bottom.
See the problem with handicapping a 10-nominee race under these rules? You have to predict not only voters' first choices, but how strategic they'll be filling out the rest of the ballot. I think the system could open the door for a film that, while not many think of it as a best picture, just about everyone loved – a film like "Up."
By the way, you may not have heard of this system before, but it's been around a while. In fact, the Academy has long used it to choose the best picture nominees. It's also gaining a foothold in politics: it's been used or is set to be used in some 15 cities and states, including Memphis, Minneapolis, San Francisco, and Burlington, Vermont, as well as in the United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia, and other countries. Supporters say it eliminates the expense of runoff elections, and ensures the winner has a mandate from a majority.
We'll find out Sunday night which film has the "mandate" of the Academy membership.
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#1109939
- Sat Mar 06 2010 11:10 PM
Re: Oscar's New Math
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PJP
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I saw Hurt Locker and loved it....Loved UP too. Didn't see Aavatar nor will I.
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#1109941
- Sat Mar 06 2010 11:22 PM
Re: Oscar's New Math
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PJP
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put the lotion in the basket!
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#1109944
- Sat Mar 06 2010 11:54 PM
Re: Oscar's New Math
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rex
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#1109952
- Sun Mar 07 2010 12:06 AM
Re: Oscar's New Math
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the G-man
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That's actually the most accurate review of that movie I've ever read.
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#1109955
- Sun Mar 07 2010 12:14 AM
Re: Oscar's New Math
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the G-man
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Would that technically be a prequel?
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#1110042
- Sun Mar 07 2010 08:41 PM
Re: Oscar's New Math
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the G-man
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Supposedly, they've gone back to saying "and the winner is" tonight instead of the touchy feely "and the Oscar goes to..."
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#1110055
- Sun Mar 07 2010 09:55 PM
Re: Oscar's New Math
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the G-man
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This surprises you? That kind of preachy shit is always Oscar bait.
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#1110064
- Sun Mar 07 2010 11:33 PM
Re: Oscar's New Math
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K-nutreturns
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oscar award winner...the dude.
big_pimp_tim-made it cool to roll in the first damn place! Mon Jun 11 2007 09:27 PM- harley finally rolled with me "I'm working with him...he's young but, there is much potential. He can apprentice with me and then he's yours for final training. He will remember the face of his father... Some day, Knutreturns just may be the greatest of us all...."-THE bastard
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#1110068
- Mon Mar 08 2010 12:02 AM
Re: Oscar's New Math
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PJP
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HURT LOCKER!!!!!!! Best film by far.
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#1110079
- Mon Mar 08 2010 02:33 AM
Re: Oscar's New Math
[Re: rex]
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Pariah
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A bunch of cryptic diatribe.
What the hell are you talking about.
I'm lost without the sig divider.
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#1110080
- Mon Mar 08 2010 03:15 AM
Re: Oscar's New Math
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rex
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A bunch of cryptic diatribe.
What the hell are you talking about. [/quote]
Don't worry about it.
November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.
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#1110598
- Fri Mar 12 2010 10:38 PM
Re: Oscar's New Math
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